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1. well, there are no non petroleum based cars. lets go down the list.

   Biodiesel. Since you cannot run 100% biodisel in a car because biodiesel becomes a solid at 50 degrees outside. so 5% to 20% biodiesel is mixed with petroleum. You can burn biodiesel in in any diesel engine so the car cost the same as any car. There is an abomination of the biodiesel car called a greaser that runs on converted plant oil. HOWEVER, they are all homemade and must be started up and ran for a time on petroleum before you switch to pure grease. Since you can’t buy one, there is no price.

   ethanol. This is very similar to biodiesel. We sell cars that run on 85% ethanol. The cost for these cars are about 5% to 10% more than a car that runs on petroleum. You can custom make a car to run pure 100% ethanol, but it would be illegal since ownership of 100% ethanol is illegal. You can buy 95% ethanol with 5% petroleum added.

   Hydrogen is not a fuel. H2 is a man made chemical that comes from either natural gas, petroleum, or from coal. If you skip that part, there are no H2 fueled cars for sale, you can rent one. The estimated cost of an H2 car is about 300% to 500% more than an petroleum based car.

   Water won’t burn, it is not an energy source and can never be one unless you add petroleum based energy with it.

2. Flex fuel cars that can burn ethanol are sold by many car companies that sell regular cars. Chevy sells a number of cars that have a zero cost flex fuel option. The source is the Edmund’s.com page for the Chevy Impala showing the $0 flex fuel option.

   I don’t know of any hydrogen powered car for sale commercially. There may be some prototypes, but none on the regular market.

   There are no water powered cars. It is physically, theoretically, actually, truly, totally impossible to power a car or any engine using only water. All water powered cars are hoaxes.

3. Let me start off by saying Hydrogen is a great option for free energy. I built my first hydrogen cell about 10 years ago. Have converted over 50 vehicles in the last 10 years (hydrogen & EV) & now currently run a truck (and another 2 electric vehicles, 1 on Ethanol & 1 biodiesel), my home hot water heater, home stove & home generator on hydrogen for free with caught rain water & the help of a $10 solar panel. I offer a step by step DIY guide to walk anyone interested threw the process. You can find it at www agua-luna com or you can email me.

   There are basically 3 safe ways to make & use hydrogen… chemically, electrically & molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I’ll only discuss them here. The fallowing steps were taking directly out of the DIY guide I offer to those who would like to run their vehicles or home on 100% water safely. The entire guide is available at www agua-luna com

   On demand h2 generators are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen & oxygen in its gas form, only liquid (water) & is only transformed into gas “on-demand” in small cylinder sized amounts. It’s actually safer then gasoline as it doesn’t evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank & isn’t explosive in it’s liquid form (water) like gas.

   Chemically

   1. You’ll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom & use a screw on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, screwing in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve & into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).
   2. Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) & drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox & Drano’s do to).
   3. Then simply add water, screw on the top & wait a few minutes.

   What happens in simplicity is that aluminum & lye don’t really get along so they battle, & as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up its hydrogen & oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe & is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

   Electrical is a bit easier then Chemically.

   1. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what I use ($9 at harborfreight.com), connect the 2 wires from the panel +- to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work ie. Copper, aluminum, steel, etc.
   2. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), make sure they don’t touch each other.
   3. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, screwing in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve & into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).
   4. Then simply add water, screw on the top cap & wait.
   After a few hours tiny bubbles will form & rise off one conductor (that’s hydrogen) & even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don’t remember which likes the positive & which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

   The third method is more complicated & is what I use for my vehicles. It’s just a modified Joe’s Cell, there’s a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process here www agua-luna com

   It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

   Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online & on-site workshops, seminars & internships to help others help the environment.

   Dan Martin

4. Well, I bought a 1999 Ford Crown Victoria that runs on natural gas (methane) last year for $4500 and several Ford F-150 pickup trucks last year for around $5500 each, some more, some less due to mileage on them. You can get them even cheaper now since gasoline prices have dropped and people have short memories…check out cng vehicles on eBay and Craigslist and you’ll see. Also check out cngprices.com for natural gas prices in your area. They’re great cars to have, and especially were when gasoline was over $4.00 a gallon and I was paying 80 cents a gallon for cng. Better for the environment and saved gobs of money, too.