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Testing the performance of the EBN, Inc. (Energy Builders Network) prototype 101 plate electroyser. Running at 8 LPM output. Had to turn down the production volume just a bit to keep it from blowing out the torch. Testing the function of D3’s torch at 8 LPM output volume of HHO. This was so much fun I was cutting various stuff for most of the afternoon. The video is short because I really did not want to bore everyone. But as a cutting torch, HHO rules! www.energybuilders.net
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@tjcheem – the system I am using in this video has 72 plates, each 8″x8″ and is powered by 120vAC @ about 12-15 amps … typical production on that device is 8-12 lpm of cool clean HHO gas at about 80F temperature with NO potassium or steam leaving the system … the electrolyte is a very mild mixture KOH and distilled water …
how do u make so much gas, alot of amps, plates, or electrolites, what do u use as an electrolite.
thanks
Maybe The holes of the berner should be smaller
@dominicboisvert – typical propane appliances are designed to mix ambient air with the propane … HHO dont require any extra air burn …
I did try to use a camp stove with HHO … tinkered with it for quire a while a couple years ago … had only moderate success with it … I think HHO in a heating or cooking application will require a radically different burner to work as expected …
did you ever try to convert a propane appliance to hho
the tip is a mig welding tip … they can bbought in a variety of sizes … for the torch, I like a .030 or .035 orafice … the tube and valve are standard small plumbing parts bought at Home Depot …
I was curious as to where you got that torch piece. It gave me an idea to spray HHO into my car rather than having various size bubble enter.
I use a double bubbler setup … trick is to use an orafice small enough so the velocity of gas at the tip is high enough to keep it from flashing back … for 2 lpm use a .025, for 4 lpm use .030 … as you get up into 6-8 lpm the larger .035-.050 tips are a lot of fun …
Great to discover your site.
My torch back flashes into the bubbler at this stage but my HHO production is about to improve so I’ll finally get to play with this baby.
Many thanks and I hope to discuss mutual experiments as time goes on…Cheers, Grant
not bored at all. my wife thinks i am crazy being obsessed with these things.
yeah, I could not keep the torch lit when I ran my device at full output … had to back off to about 8 lpm to keep for having the velocity of the gas at the tip blow out the flame … I think that at 10 lpm or more, I need to go to a .060 orifice instead of the .030 I am using now …
Holy Smoke Batman!
Thats awesome!
Great work Scarecrow.
After many days of trial and error, I succeeded in getting a respectable flame.
@ 1 liter in 50 seconds I was able to burn my first can.
Just a 12 volt battery and about 40 to 50 amps.
Eddie
its easier to do hot water with a plasma device … its being done in the lab now … very effective, very efficient … EBN might make a system available commercially by next winter … sorry, but I dont think we can figure out how to make it safe for average Joe to operate before then … so you are going to have to make it through one more winter with conventioanal heat … we are working on it but we only got so much man power and money …
the HHO torch seems to automatically adjust its temperature based on the material you are hitting … I know it will turn brick into a molten glass like substance and that it cuts through steel and even tungstun like butter … to vaporize tungstun takes 3500F I think … so it can get plenty hot enough to turn glass beads into a liquid …
do you know how hot that runs at? i have been trying to come up with a plan for a glass bowing torch.
yeska
My electrolyser is a series cell based on the Tero Ranta design but is heavily modified … it consists of 72 316L plates in an 8″ x 8″ form factor … it is powered off rectified 120vAC … typically the electrolyser consumes 1200-2000 watts of power and produces between 5 and 10 lpm of gas … efficiencies on the device range from a high of 5.5 mmw at moderate settings to a low of 4.5 mmw when I am running it hard …
is this s series cell or parallel cell and are you using lye or something’ What voltage and amperage?
Thanks
Scott
So why isn’t anybody working on a hot water heating system with HHO,smart scarecrow?I would much rather avoid that fueloil truck backing down my driveway 10 times a winter.
I dont think there are any published plans for it as such … if I was to decide to build myself one, I would head up to home depot and dig throuh the plumbing small parts rack until I found me some parts that looked suitable … the ball valve is the most expensive item so I would pick that out first and make sure my tube, tip and barb fittings fit that piece of it … then drill and tap a screw on end piece to accept the mig welder tip … D3ADP001 did do an assembly video on the process …
But you didn’t answer his question as to where can we get plans ? I too would love to make one!
hehehe … d3adp001 already did use his to slice through tungsten. But if you insist, next time I am at Home Depot, will pick up some tungsten welding rods just so I can do it. Think the aluminum cans will still turn out to be more fun though.
On he green flame, I tried to suspend a piece of copper wire in the flame but it is consumed so fast, that the green flame just dont get caught on film. If I could find a volatile liquid for the bubbler whose vapors burn green, that would be cool.
To get a green flame, need a lil copper in the mix. maybe throw some pennies in the bubbler? I bet you’ve seen green water from using copper for connectors or wires in the bubbler, that green flame wouldbe perty. Maybe burn some copper w/ the torch? Wouldn’t burn penny on cam, is destruction of money, which is a crime I believe… maybe burn some copper wire or something?? Great torch! BTW, aluminum melts at 1220 F, and boils at 4472 F. Now TUNGSTEN, THAT melts at like 3,400 F! Melt THAT! T
The torch was made for me as special favor by a fellow who posts videos here on YouTube as D3ADP001. When I first saw his video about he built it and what it could do I had much the same reaction as you. Now that I have one, I realize its really a very simple design that be put together with small plumging fittings available from Home Depot. Toughest thing is cutting the thread for the .030 mig welder tip in the screw on end cap. Valve on torch is critical! Turn off torch at that valve!
where are the plans for that torch!I got to have me one!
that sounds interesting … I have some lime I used in the garden but it is granulated … supect what would be really interesting would be some limestone rocks … think know where can get me some … have been a bit hesitant to hit rocks with the torch after having one of them explode on me but I am wearing reasonable safety gear so should be ok …